1 00:00:02,066 --> 00:00:06,066 Announcer: “Ten, nine, eight, seven - 2 00:00:06,066 --> 00:00:08,233 Ignition sequence started. 3 00:00:08,233 --> 00:00:10,066 All engines are started. 4 00:00:10,066 --> 00:00:11,300 We have ignition. 5 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:14,400 Two, one, zero. We have a liftoff. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,766 We have a lift off and it's lighting up the area - 7 00:00:17,766 --> 00:00:20,100 it’s just like daylight here at Kennedy Space Center. 8 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:21,400 The Saturn five is moving off 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,000 the pad. It is now clear of the tower.” 10 00:00:24,700 --> 00:00:28,300 NASA's now celebrating the 50 year anniversary of Apollo 17. 11 00:00:29,066 --> 00:00:32,400 This was the final mission of the Apollo program and most notably, 12 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:35,133 the last time humans set foot on the Moon's surface. 13 00:00:36,233 --> 00:00:39,666 The landing site in the Taurus-Littrow Valley was selected so that astronauts 14 00:00:39,666 --> 00:00:41,100 could collect samples of the lunar 15 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:45,000 highlands and investigate the volcanic history of the area. 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,866 So - what was it like to actually be there, and 17 00:00:47,866 --> 00:00:51,133 how does this mission connect with NASA's current exploration of the Moon 18 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:54,333 and our future plans to return humans to the surface? 19 00:00:55,900 --> 00:01:00,100 These questions are best answered by the Lunar Module pilot for Apollo 17, 20 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:03,000 Jack Schmitt, whose background as a geologist offers 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,333 unique insight about studying the lunar terrain. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,333 For Jack, being on the Moon was an unparalleled experience, 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,000 and future astronauts should expect the same. 24 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:15,733 The experience is going to be more than you ever anticipated, 25 00:01:15,733 --> 00:01:19,500 and it was that way for me to get onto the Moon. 26 00:01:20,933 --> 00:01:22,866 Seeing this valley of Taurus-Littrow, 27 00:01:22,866 --> 00:01:26,900 which is deeper than the Grand Canyon, as a matter of fact, mountains 28 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:31,066 to six and seven thousand feet above you on either side of the valley, 29 00:01:32,033 --> 00:01:34,300 all silhouetted against a 30 00:01:35,433 --> 00:01:39,000 black sky with brilliantly illuminated mountain slopes. 31 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:44,633 And the Earth, of course, in one spot above the southern part of the Massifs - 32 00:01:44,966 --> 00:01:47,266 that all was a new experience, of course. 33 00:01:47,266 --> 00:01:48,333 And you can’t . . . 34 00:01:48,533 --> 00:01:52,400 you can hear people talk about it, but you can't absorb it until you're there. 35 00:01:52,833 --> 00:01:55,700 Being there is the essential human ingredient 36 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,233 in any kind of experience of that kind. 37 00:01:59,233 --> 00:02:03,066 Schmitt: “As I step off at the surface at Taurus-Littrow, 38 00:02:03,066 --> 00:02:05,800 I'd like to dedicate the first steps 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,033 of Apollo 17 40 00:02:08,033 --> 00:02:10,733 to all those who made it possible.” 41 00:02:10,733 --> 00:02:14,566 Schmitt and Commander Gene Cernan completed three moonwalks on the surface, 42 00:02:14,566 --> 00:02:17,900 taking rock samples and deploying scientific instruments. 43 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:21,433 Difficult work considering the surface gravity is only about one-sixth 44 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:22,400 that of Earth's. 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,433 Cernan: “What are you working on, Jack?” Schmitt: “I'm taking a pan.” 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,100 Cernan: “Very good. I'm coming right now . . . 47 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,200 I bet you a dollar to doughnuts that you don’t get a TGE reading.” 48 00:02:31,733 --> 00:02:35,366 Mission Control: “Yeah, Gene. If it’s easy enough to take it off, 49 00:02:35,366 --> 00:02:36,900 why don't you take it off the Rover 50 00:02:36,900 --> 00:02:42,266 and we’ll try and and level it in the stuff.” 51 00:02:42,266 --> 00:02:44,100 Schmitt: “Ah, come on . . . ”[Laughter] 52 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:50,566 Cernan: “I'm not sure there's any place to put it on the ground level.” 53 00:02:50,566 --> 00:03:01,000 Schmitt: “No. You have to dig a place.” Cernan: “Yes, I’ll do it. Okay it’s coming off.” 54 00:03:06,866 --> 00:03:09,100 Cernan: “Well, I'll set it right up here.” 55 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:10,200 Schmitt: “It's gonna fall down the hill . . .” 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,533 Schmitt: “You’d better stomp off a good place.” Cernan: “Yeah.” 57 00:03:13,533 --> 00:03:16,133 The conditions on the Moon, however, were also ripe 58 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:19,300 for the astronauts to have a little fun on the surface as well. 59 00:03:20,766 --> 00:03:24,900 Schmitt [Singing]: “I was strolling on the Moon one day . . .” 60 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:27,333 Cernan and Schmitt [Singing]: “in the marry marry month of . . .” 61 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:28,133 Schmitt: “December!” 62 00:03:28,133 --> 00:03:30,666 Cernan: “No, May.” - Schmitt: “May. “ Cernan: ”May’s the month this year.” 63 00:03:30,666 --> 00:03:33,666 Schmitt: “May - That's right.” Cernan: “May is the year of the Month” 64 00:03:34,866 --> 00:03:36,633 Schmitt: “Go ahead. Oh, there . . . there. 65 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:37,600 Schmitt: “Let me throw the hammer.” 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,266 Cernan: “Okay.” Schmitt: “Let me throw the hammer, please.” 67 00:03:40,766 --> 00:03:41,966 Cernan: “It’s all yours.” Schmitt: “You got the gravimeter.” 68 00:03:41,966 --> 00:03:43,866 Cernan: “You deserve it. A hammer thrower . . .” 69 00:03:43,866 --> 00:03:45,633 Cernan: “You’re a geologist. You ought to be able to throw it.” 70 00:03:45,633 --> 00:03:47,233 Schmitt: “You ready?” Cernan: “Go ahead.” 71 00:03:47,233 --> 00:03:50,000 Schmitt: “You ready for this? Ready for this?” 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Cernan: “Yeah” 73 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Cernan: “Don't hit the LM . . . or the ALSEP” 74 00:03:56,766 --> 00:03:59,866 Schmitt: “Look at that! Look at that! Look at that!” 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,866 Cernan: “Beautiful.” 76 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,100 Cernan: “Looked like it was going a million miles, but it really didn’t.” 77 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:07,333 Schmitt: “Didn’t it?” 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,100 The crew managed to gather around 245 pounds 79 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,666 of moon rocks and dust samples during their EVAs. 80 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:17,633 It was an impressive collection for scientific analysis back on Earth. 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Cernan: “Let's see if I can’t crack the corner and get that contact.” 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,200 The quality and diversity of the Apollo sample collection is just remarkable. 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,300 Absolutely remarkable. 84 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:30,266 And it's a gift that keeps on giving. 85 00:04:30,266 --> 00:04:33,400 The researchers continue to go back to these samples. 86 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,100 New analytical technology comes along where you can apply new techniques, 87 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:42,166 get more higher resolution information, and that'll be going on indefinitely. 88 00:04:42,166 --> 00:04:46,833 I don't think the lunar sample collection from Apollo will ever be out of date. 89 00:04:47,833 --> 00:04:50,400 Over three decades after Apollo 17, 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,466 NASA launched the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in 2009. 91 00:04:54,466 --> 00:04:57,500 The scientific instruments aboard this robotic spacecraft 92 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:00,800 collect a wide variety of scientific data on the Moon's environment, 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,100 including surface and subsurface properties. 94 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:08,133 And since LRO has now been in operation for over 13 years, 95 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:11,666 it has provided a treasure trove of new information about the Moon, 96 00:05:11,666 --> 00:05:15,433 as well as the capacity to help scientists re-interpret older data 97 00:05:15,433 --> 00:05:20,633 and answer scientific questions that had been lingering from the days of Apollo 17. 98 00:05:20,633 --> 00:05:24,633 One such case involved the debate over the origins of a light colored mantle 99 00:05:24,633 --> 00:05:28,500 seen at the base of the South Massif in Taurus-Littrow. 100 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:31,200 LRO imagery provided a key discovery 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,766 that enabled scientists to put together the many pieces of the puzzle. 102 00:05:35,666 --> 00:05:40,266 One of the highest sun angle LRO photographs 103 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:45,333 made it very clear that there was an older, slightly darker 104 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:51,466 avalanche underlying - partially underlying- the light colored light mantle avalanche. 105 00:05:51,466 --> 00:05:55,333 And that immediately brought into question whether or not the light mantle 106 00:05:55,333 --> 00:06:01,333 avalanche, as people had thought, was triggered by secondary material 107 00:06:01,333 --> 00:06:05,033 thrown from the crater Tycho, some 2000 108 00:06:05,033 --> 00:06:07,600 kilometers to the southwest. 109 00:06:08,466 --> 00:06:13,300 It would seem not impossible, but it would seem to be very coincidental 110 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:18,366 to have two avalanches, one of which was triggered by those impacts. 111 00:06:18,366 --> 00:06:24,666 And that, in turn, took us to looking at what might be an alternative 112 00:06:24,666 --> 00:06:26,100 triggering mechanism. 113 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:31,100 And the more we began to understand the Lee Lincoln scarp, and that it was 114 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:36,200 indeed as a result of other LRO analyses elsewhere on the Moon, 115 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,366 that it was indeed a thrust fault scarp - 116 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:41,933 Then you start to think, well, maybe these are being triggered 117 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:43,800 by seismic activity, moonquakes. 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,233 And so it sort of snowballs. 119 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:49,433 You see one thing, and then you start to explain that 120 00:06:49,433 --> 00:06:53,033 and it leads you to a number of other analyses. 121 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:56,866 Clearly, LRO imagery and other sensor data 122 00:06:56,866 --> 00:07:00,566 has made a great difference in our ability to augment 123 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,333 the interpretation of the geology of the valley of Taurus-Littrow. 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,366 As the LRO mission continues enhancing our ability to interpret 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,300 Apollo era data while also collecting new information about the lunar terrain, 126 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:16,933 Jack sees a clear roadmap for the future exploration of the Moon 127 00:07:16,933 --> 00:07:18,333 and where we should go next. 128 00:07:19,333 --> 00:07:23,800 It's apparent to me that based on 129 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,200 just general considerations 130 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,233 as well as the magnificent imagery 131 00:07:29,233 --> 00:07:33,600 coming from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera, 132 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,000 that South Pole Aiken is clearly 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,366 the place you'd like to have an extended human 134 00:07:39,366 --> 00:07:41,800 presence for exploration. 135 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,900 With this all this new knowledge, I think South Pole Aiken becomes 136 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:49,866 a much higher priority for the next human mission to the Moon. 137 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,700 Sure enough, NASA has recently announced that the Artemis missions 138 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:56,000 which will eventually have humans 139 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,133 returning to the lunar surface, will focus on the Moon's South Pole. 140 00:08:00,133 --> 00:08:03,900 In fact, the 13 landing sites currently under consideration 141 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:08,266 sit within the South Pole Aiken Basin, or on its rim. 142 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:11,566 Data shows the presence of water ice in some of the permanently shadowed 143 00:08:11,566 --> 00:08:14,566 regions, a discovery that is crucial for understanding 144 00:08:14,566 --> 00:08:17,733 the geologic history of the Moon, as well as helping establish 145 00:08:17,733 --> 00:08:20,800 a sustained human presence there in the future. 146 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,733 Overall, the 50th anniversary of Apollo 17 reminds us 147 00:08:24,733 --> 00:08:29,133 that this mission was a crucial stepping stone in the history of lunar science, 148 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:31,766 laying the groundwork for missions like LRO, 149 00:08:31,766 --> 00:08:35,400 which in turn help open the door on a new era of human exploration 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,600 with Artemis. 151 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,866 And while these missions may be separated by decades of time, 152 00:08:40,866 --> 00:08:44,066 they all interconnect with the central premise and understanding 153 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:47,500 of how the Moon is the cornerstone to understanding our universe. 154 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:51,333 The main reason the Moon is important in the general 155 00:08:51,333 --> 00:08:54,600 understanding of the solar system is that it has no atmosphere. 156 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,000 It's never had any water erosion, it has no dynamic plates being formed 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,233 and eaten up as the Earth does. 158 00:09:03,233 --> 00:09:08,433 And it tells us what the early solar system was like up 159 00:09:08,433 --> 00:09:12,800 to about three and a half billion years ago. 160 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,333 And that's information we can't really get from any other accessible planet. 161 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,400 The Apollo 17 anniversary allows us to reflect on all the moments, 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,500 big and small, that led to the success of that historic mission. 163 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:29,333 For Jack, it's a time to reflect on those days, months and years 164 00:09:29,333 --> 00:09:33,266 spent out in the field preparing for the duties of an astronaut. 165 00:09:33,266 --> 00:09:36,366 And it was during this time training that Jack learned the invaluable 166 00:09:36,366 --> 00:09:40,600 scientific lesson that not everything goes exactly as planned. 167 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:45,033 Well, those excursions had all of their 168 00:09:45,033 --> 00:09:46,666 their interesting aspects. 169 00:09:46,666 --> 00:09:50,866 One time, I believe it was in Nevada, we’re getting off the rover, even 170 00:09:50,866 --> 00:09:57,300 without a suit, I had slipped on something and fell onto this . . . surface. 171 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:00,266 And my good friend, the late 172 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:07,233 Gordon Swan, said over the communication system, “Well, Schmitt just hit the fan!” 173 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:08,733 [Laughing] . . . 174 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,800 It was, by the way, an alluvial fan. 175 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,266 [Laughing] 176 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:16,833 I don't think you can use that! [Laughing] 177 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:18,266 Interviewer: “I’ll use that someday.” 178 00:10:18,266 --> 00:10:18,733 [Laughter] 179 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:20,466 Interviewer: “That’s Great. Thank you very much Jack.” 180 00:10:20,466 --> 00:10:21,533 Yeah, thank you.